Wow! I just subscribed this was so great! I have been really frustrated this past year because none of the remedies that I’ve tried worked- lingering cough, aching bones and hips, low grade fever etc etc. And it lessens and then rolls back again. Neither my husband or I took the shot but we are obviously suffering from something interfering with healing. Thank you for the great info!
Hi Emily, I was trying to do a little bit of research as I suspect some of my issues the last few months could relate back to a hospital stay with my daughter in November where I’m sure we were exposed to a lot of shedding. My cycle in particular has been very off. However when I searched online about ovaries and nicotine (hoping to find a positive correlation) several studies popped up suggesting that nicotine has a negative effect on ovarian reserve/follicles. Do you know anything about that or do you know if Dr Klinghart or anyone else promoting the patches has addressed this? Or have any of your clients who have used the patches experienced any changes to their cycles? I’m on day 4 of the patch and my energy level and depression and brain fog have all improved significantly but now I’m concerned I could be causing more damage to my thrown off hormones/ovarian reserve.
Hi Joanna, I have not heard negative about the patches from Klinghardt or others. One subscriber to Homeopathy Rising brought up a study supposedly linking thyroid issues to nicotine. I believe I found the study that is being referenced, but it was actually cigarettes, not straight nicotine, that was used. The two are obviously not the same. Wondering about the studies you read as well, if it was isolated to nicotine or extrapolated from smoking? I have not seen issues with cycles, or any problems, with the patches so far. But of course I can't claim to know for sure, for everyone. There are also the Augmented NAC and Nattokinase products if you prefer other routes for dealing with the Spike Protein. One person told me Nicotine 6X works, but I haven't tested this myself. I have doubts about it's ability to denature the Spike, but would love hear from more people try it. There are strong links between cycle changes and SHEDDING, however, as per Midwestern Doctors well-documented articles: https://substack.com/home/post/p-189534063
Thank you! I tried to find the studies again and of course am having trouble. I think this was the main one (others were done on prenatal ovaries, and showed effects on number of follicles): https://applications.emro.who.int/imemrf/J_Reprod_Infertil/J_Reprod_Infertil_2012_13_3_143_150.pdf and it does use straight nicotine. However, it says that a dose of .1 mg/kg did not affect ovaries, which for me would be around the 7 mg mark so I think I will just avoid going higher than that and will not continue after 6 days. There are also studies talking about nicotine being an aromatase inhibitor which would affect estrogen levels, but I don’t fully understand what all of that means. Just something to look into for women considering long term use of the patches as encouraged by Dr Ardis. Everything else looked like it used smoking and not just nicotine, but I was avoiding those studies anyway.
Great, thanks for the additional info. Yes, we don’t know it all, but I do agree about keeping the doses fairly low for most people. (Although Dr Klinghardt likes the 14mg patch in the afternoon, he said, to bump up his brain function.) After I completed my first detox week with the patches, I now just use a 3.5mg patch when exposed to shedding etc. And I usually only need it for a day or two. :)
Hi Brenda, it seems the shedding continues long term, and that has been my experience as well. For WAY more info than I could ever share, I really recommend this article: https://substack.com/home/post/p-189534063
I think Eupatorium has some benefit, but not clearly so much as Nicotine Patches and Augmented NAC, which are my go-tos.
It’s mostly day of and day after that you might want the Eupatorium, say a couple of times a day, but increasing or continuing if you feel like you are coming down with something. That is what it is best known for, to prevent viral infections. It has not been proved to handle the spike protein, however.
I have read different versions of Joe DeLivera's Covid prophylaxis using Eupatorium. One is using it in the 200C potency and another is using it in 1M. It seemed that he stressed buying it in alcohol for it to work. Do you know if there is a protocol that has been shown to work using Eupatorium 200C in pellet form as a prophylaxis?
If so, how many times a day do you take it and do you take it every day or just a few days before you are going to be around people?
Also, when a person is using a remedy as a prophylaxis, so they are not sick, wouldn't they stand a chance of proving the remedy? Thank you!
Yes, he used the 200C and 1M. Either are options. No, you don't have to buy it in alcohol. That is just another form of remedy, not something 'special'. Everyone has their favorites. In my house, we all take a dose of Eupatorium 200C once a week (pills in wet dose) as a preventative, and have for years. Then if it feels like we are coming down with something, that gets increased to as often as needed (and then other remedies would come into play too). Although nowadays, we just put on a 3.5mg nicotine patch if it feels like we are coming down with something, and so far it always halts it. Joe Delivera gave everyone in a factory that his family owned a dose of Eupatorium 1M once a week and in (something like) a year, there wasn't a single sick day. Provings come on after taking remedies repetitively, for a while, when not needed. I have never seen anyone prove Eupatorium using any of these methods, even taking it twice a day for very long periods to help resolve chronic sinus issues. As I often say, the actual numbers of provings people experience is largely overstated, and with everything people are up against (bugs, toxins, radiation, etc), most can take many remedies that are even not the perfect fit for quite some time with no ill effects. Not that we would do this on purpose, but to ease people's minds. :)
Emily, in someone who has long Covid and who suffers from palpitations (along with a myriad of other symptoms), do you think going to the Augmented NAC would be a better choice than the nicotine patch? I see that palpitations are a well-known side effect of the patches. Thanks!
Hi Ellen! In general, the Augmented NAC is a great way to go. There are trade-offs; cost being a big one for some people, and also just preference (plenty are open to a supplement who are wary of the patches). I have a client who has had palpitations since COVID, which are managed with homeopathy, but not yet cured. She tried the nicotine patches. They did not make the palpitations worse at all, but also didn't cure them. She still has not tried the ANAC, though we have discussed it, so I can't report on that, though I'd love to compare. (A lot of moms are quick to buy things for their kids and not so much for themselves!)
Thank you, Emily, for the great info! I'm very interested in finding more information on Dr. Klinghardt's use of the nicotine patches for ADHD. Do you know where I can see this info? I went to his website, but can't seem to find more info on this specifically. Thank you so much!
Hi Catherine! The Klinghardt Institute (https://klinghardtinstitute.com/) hosts weekly webinars with different guests, sometimes Dr. Klinghardt himself. However, after the live presentation the recording is only available to watch for a week. So the information I shared is from listening to Dr. Klinghardt and my notes, but I can't provide a link. He noted that nictoine patches are wonderful, even in place of meds, for ADHD, Hyperactivity, and Autism. And can provide a lasting healing effect. He generally starts with 7mg, but I usually start with 3.5mg, as 7mg can make people sick. He says, yes, you may feel sick for a few days and then you increase to 14mg! But 14mg made me super sick. So we have to find that right level for each person. If it disrupts sleep (some get intense dreams), you can use it half the day instead of 24 hours. Some sleep better with it. It is also showing amazing effects for elderly with dementia. One friend of mine has her mom on the patches, and her mom is so much better on them that everyone comments on it. And every time she stops them her mom gets worse. So, using info from the doctor in the video above who studies nicotine and dementia, she gradually keeps upping the dose. In his studies the memory loss groups were up to 21mg patches daily over the course of a year. So they can be used in a variety of ways.
Emily, thank you so much for your response! I think I’m going to go ahead and try this to help with any shedding of the vaccine for the entire family, but after that I think I will continue with it for my 16-year-old son who has ADHD (without the hyperactivity). We’re also using the Banerji protocol for ADHD plus Tuberculinum 200 e14D. I think it’s helping but it’s hard to tell because we’re out of school right now. Do you know if the nicotine pouches like Alp are just as safe and effective as the patches?
I’m also thinking of trying the nicotine patches for my 82-year-old mom who has some mild age related cognitive decline . I’m excited!🙏🥰
I would look at the ingredients in the pouches, it looks to me like they might have quite a few other ingredients. I want the purest option, personally, no 'flavorings' or chemicals. Also, I don't know anyone yet (who is trying nicotine for these purposes, as a non-user in general) who hasn't gotten so sick using the oral route (gum etc) that they gave it up immediately. That's actually what made me hesitant to try it myself for so long-- memories of trying a little chewing tobacco in high school and nearly passing out. The skin patch is definitely a more slow and steady delivery system.
Hi Brenda! We have it from getting COVID too, I believe. Though I don't know how we'll test and prove it until there's an actual Spike Protein test. (Which the ANAC creators, with Mr. Zoffi, apparently have invented, though it's not widely available. And not an antibody test, but one for the actual Spike.) As noted in the article, my husband and I were never quite right after COVID, without any shots, until we used the products to clear it. Never have I seen a cold or flu have lasting symptoms so long (years!) that resisted homeopathy, and even worsened as time went on (for instance the pain that inexplicably became overwhelming just this year that was solved with the nicotine). This is the 'Long COVID' that so many are suffering from. This is what has been persisting for so many years. (Possibly made worse from shedding as well?!) It may not look as bad as for those who took the shots (for instance all the young people suddenly dying), but it's still there, and some of my clients have been majorly affected by this. However, if you are symptom free, then hallelujah!
Wow! I just subscribed this was so great! I have been really frustrated this past year because none of the remedies that I’ve tried worked- lingering cough, aching bones and hips, low grade fever etc etc. And it lessens and then rolls back again. Neither my husband or I took the shot but we are obviously suffering from something interfering with healing. Thank you for the great info!
Hi Emily, I was trying to do a little bit of research as I suspect some of my issues the last few months could relate back to a hospital stay with my daughter in November where I’m sure we were exposed to a lot of shedding. My cycle in particular has been very off. However when I searched online about ovaries and nicotine (hoping to find a positive correlation) several studies popped up suggesting that nicotine has a negative effect on ovarian reserve/follicles. Do you know anything about that or do you know if Dr Klinghart or anyone else promoting the patches has addressed this? Or have any of your clients who have used the patches experienced any changes to their cycles? I’m on day 4 of the patch and my energy level and depression and brain fog have all improved significantly but now I’m concerned I could be causing more damage to my thrown off hormones/ovarian reserve.
Hi Joanna, I have not heard negative about the patches from Klinghardt or others. One subscriber to Homeopathy Rising brought up a study supposedly linking thyroid issues to nicotine. I believe I found the study that is being referenced, but it was actually cigarettes, not straight nicotine, that was used. The two are obviously not the same. Wondering about the studies you read as well, if it was isolated to nicotine or extrapolated from smoking? I have not seen issues with cycles, or any problems, with the patches so far. But of course I can't claim to know for sure, for everyone. There are also the Augmented NAC and Nattokinase products if you prefer other routes for dealing with the Spike Protein. One person told me Nicotine 6X works, but I haven't tested this myself. I have doubts about it's ability to denature the Spike, but would love hear from more people try it. There are strong links between cycle changes and SHEDDING, however, as per Midwestern Doctors well-documented articles: https://substack.com/home/post/p-189534063
Thank you! I tried to find the studies again and of course am having trouble. I think this was the main one (others were done on prenatal ovaries, and showed effects on number of follicles): https://applications.emro.who.int/imemrf/J_Reprod_Infertil/J_Reprod_Infertil_2012_13_3_143_150.pdf and it does use straight nicotine. However, it says that a dose of .1 mg/kg did not affect ovaries, which for me would be around the 7 mg mark so I think I will just avoid going higher than that and will not continue after 6 days. There are also studies talking about nicotine being an aromatase inhibitor which would affect estrogen levels, but I don’t fully understand what all of that means. Just something to look into for women considering long term use of the patches as encouraged by Dr Ardis. Everything else looked like it used smoking and not just nicotine, but I was avoiding those studies anyway.
Great, thanks for the additional info. Yes, we don’t know it all, but I do agree about keeping the doses fairly low for most people. (Although Dr Klinghardt likes the 14mg patch in the afternoon, he said, to bump up his brain function.) After I completed my first detox week with the patches, I now just use a 3.5mg patch when exposed to shedding etc. And I usually only need it for a day or two. :)
Hi Emily,
Do you know how long people are shedding the spike protein after having Covid or receiving a Covid vaccine?
Is the Eupatorium 200 the best remedy to use as a prophylaxis for shedding if you're going to be in a group of people?
How many days before the event should you start it and how many times a day?
Thank you! :)
Hi Brenda, it seems the shedding continues long term, and that has been my experience as well. For WAY more info than I could ever share, I really recommend this article: https://substack.com/home/post/p-189534063
I think Eupatorium has some benefit, but not clearly so much as Nicotine Patches and Augmented NAC, which are my go-tos.
It’s mostly day of and day after that you might want the Eupatorium, say a couple of times a day, but increasing or continuing if you feel like you are coming down with something. That is what it is best known for, to prevent viral infections. It has not been proved to handle the spike protein, however.
Hi Emily,
I have read different versions of Joe DeLivera's Covid prophylaxis using Eupatorium. One is using it in the 200C potency and another is using it in 1M. It seemed that he stressed buying it in alcohol for it to work. Do you know if there is a protocol that has been shown to work using Eupatorium 200C in pellet form as a prophylaxis?
If so, how many times a day do you take it and do you take it every day or just a few days before you are going to be around people?
Also, when a person is using a remedy as a prophylaxis, so they are not sick, wouldn't they stand a chance of proving the remedy? Thank you!
Hi Brenda,
Yes, he used the 200C and 1M. Either are options. No, you don't have to buy it in alcohol. That is just another form of remedy, not something 'special'. Everyone has their favorites. In my house, we all take a dose of Eupatorium 200C once a week (pills in wet dose) as a preventative, and have for years. Then if it feels like we are coming down with something, that gets increased to as often as needed (and then other remedies would come into play too). Although nowadays, we just put on a 3.5mg nicotine patch if it feels like we are coming down with something, and so far it always halts it. Joe Delivera gave everyone in a factory that his family owned a dose of Eupatorium 1M once a week and in (something like) a year, there wasn't a single sick day. Provings come on after taking remedies repetitively, for a while, when not needed. I have never seen anyone prove Eupatorium using any of these methods, even taking it twice a day for very long periods to help resolve chronic sinus issues. As I often say, the actual numbers of provings people experience is largely overstated, and with everything people are up against (bugs, toxins, radiation, etc), most can take many remedies that are even not the perfect fit for quite some time with no ill effects. Not that we would do this on purpose, but to ease people's minds. :)
Emily, in someone who has long Covid and who suffers from palpitations (along with a myriad of other symptoms), do you think going to the Augmented NAC would be a better choice than the nicotine patch? I see that palpitations are a well-known side effect of the patches. Thanks!
Hi Ellen! In general, the Augmented NAC is a great way to go. There are trade-offs; cost being a big one for some people, and also just preference (plenty are open to a supplement who are wary of the patches). I have a client who has had palpitations since COVID, which are managed with homeopathy, but not yet cured. She tried the nicotine patches. They did not make the palpitations worse at all, but also didn't cure them. She still has not tried the ANAC, though we have discussed it, so I can't report on that, though I'd love to compare. (A lot of moms are quick to buy things for their kids and not so much for themselves!)
Thanks! I will discuss this with her and she can choose. Good to know the patch didn’t make the palpitations worse in your client.
Thank you, Emily, for the great info! I'm very interested in finding more information on Dr. Klinghardt's use of the nicotine patches for ADHD. Do you know where I can see this info? I went to his website, but can't seem to find more info on this specifically. Thank you so much!
Hi Catherine! The Klinghardt Institute (https://klinghardtinstitute.com/) hosts weekly webinars with different guests, sometimes Dr. Klinghardt himself. However, after the live presentation the recording is only available to watch for a week. So the information I shared is from listening to Dr. Klinghardt and my notes, but I can't provide a link. He noted that nictoine patches are wonderful, even in place of meds, for ADHD, Hyperactivity, and Autism. And can provide a lasting healing effect. He generally starts with 7mg, but I usually start with 3.5mg, as 7mg can make people sick. He says, yes, you may feel sick for a few days and then you increase to 14mg! But 14mg made me super sick. So we have to find that right level for each person. If it disrupts sleep (some get intense dreams), you can use it half the day instead of 24 hours. Some sleep better with it. It is also showing amazing effects for elderly with dementia. One friend of mine has her mom on the patches, and her mom is so much better on them that everyone comments on it. And every time she stops them her mom gets worse. So, using info from the doctor in the video above who studies nicotine and dementia, she gradually keeps upping the dose. In his studies the memory loss groups were up to 21mg patches daily over the course of a year. So they can be used in a variety of ways.
Emily, thank you so much for your response! I think I’m going to go ahead and try this to help with any shedding of the vaccine for the entire family, but after that I think I will continue with it for my 16-year-old son who has ADHD (without the hyperactivity). We’re also using the Banerji protocol for ADHD plus Tuberculinum 200 e14D. I think it’s helping but it’s hard to tell because we’re out of school right now. Do you know if the nicotine pouches like Alp are just as safe and effective as the patches?
I’m also thinking of trying the nicotine patches for my 82-year-old mom who has some mild age related cognitive decline . I’m excited!🙏🥰
I would look at the ingredients in the pouches, it looks to me like they might have quite a few other ingredients. I want the purest option, personally, no 'flavorings' or chemicals. Also, I don't know anyone yet (who is trying nicotine for these purposes, as a non-user in general) who hasn't gotten so sick using the oral route (gum etc) that they gave it up immediately. That's actually what made me hesitant to try it myself for so long-- memories of trying a little chewing tobacco in high school and nearly passing out. The skin patch is definitely a more slow and steady delivery system.
Thanks Emily! That makes so much sense. I have to laugh because I had a similar experience in high school. lol.😂
Such a great article with so much helpful information. Here is my question.
So if you get covid, is the spike protein now in you? Or is that just from the shots?
Hi Brenda! We have it from getting COVID too, I believe. Though I don't know how we'll test and prove it until there's an actual Spike Protein test. (Which the ANAC creators, with Mr. Zoffi, apparently have invented, though it's not widely available. And not an antibody test, but one for the actual Spike.) As noted in the article, my husband and I were never quite right after COVID, without any shots, until we used the products to clear it. Never have I seen a cold or flu have lasting symptoms so long (years!) that resisted homeopathy, and even worsened as time went on (for instance the pain that inexplicably became overwhelming just this year that was solved with the nicotine). This is the 'Long COVID' that so many are suffering from. This is what has been persisting for so many years. (Possibly made worse from shedding as well?!) It may not look as bad as for those who took the shots (for instance all the young people suddenly dying), but it's still there, and some of my clients have been majorly affected by this. However, if you are symptom free, then hallelujah!